Myself and Elisa were on Ngunan’s upfront Radio show on Sunday. I made a clip of our discussion minus the music.
Thank you @cubicgarden @ElisaMclean85 for discussing issues around #MGTOW very interesting topic
— Ngunan Adamu (@NgunanAdamuBBC) October 1, 2017
A lot was said but I found Elisa’s views looking at the manosphere quite surprising. I did hear that the 2016 documentary, Redpill is well worth watching because of Cassie’s video diaries which show the conflict she has in her own mind and believes.
So I watched it, unfortunately the day after the show, it would have been really useful to be clear when on the radio.
From the documentary;
- Mens rights – Want to change the system
- Men going their own way (Mgtow) – Want to leave the system
- Redpill community – Want to take advantage of the system
Its a interesting distinction.
I do agree there are differences in the manosphere, just like there are differences in the feminist-sphere.
But through-out the documentary I could see elements of truth, some were blown up and smudged into a complete argument. This is classic misinformation technique, elements of truth are mixed in with lots of falsehoods.
A large part of the documentary is around paternity (fathers rights which was touched upon in the show) which is a big issue just like domestic violence, mental illness, self-abuse and suicide. But although its a large problem some of the theories are built and discussed with too much misinformation. It is clear that there is a lot of fighting between the different groups, even on core issues which effect both sexes like genital mutilations, cancer, etc.
But even with all that I’m still calling myself a feminist.
I wish I remembered to bring up clear cut things like gamergate.